As posed by me on CNN.com.
Here are the first few paragraphs:
How much longer can decent people serve in Trump's cabinet?
President Donald Trump was not standing alone on the podium when he informed the world that some participants in the Charlottesville neo-Nazi march were "very fine people."
He was flanked by Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, an immigrant from Taiwan, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, who is Jewish, and Chief of Staff John Kelly, all of whom did their best to remain stone-faced while their boss veered ever more deeply into apologetics for racism.
As business executives, military leaders, and Republican office-holders join in the repudiation of Trump's statements, one question must be asked: How much longer can decent people continue to serve in Trump's cabinet?
The rest of the piece discusses the resignation and non-resignation decisions of William Jennings Bryan and Edwin Stanton, and the decision of Massachusetts Judge Edward Loring to preside over Fugitive Slave Act cases. You can read it here.
They should all leave now. A white supremacist in the White House will stain everyone's reputation, and a year from now we will be taking stock of who had the moral courage to walk and who stood by their so-called president.
Maybe, just maybe, it is a very binary reason they won't leave…they can't. They need the money. It's the same reason I shop at Walmart, it's cheap. I know that Walmart is evil on moral and economic grounds. I am selfish It's about money.
Oh, I'd say about 7 more years.
Lubet you're annoying and the class is annoyed by your taught courses.
Anything that is said about any Jewish individual, they call it antisemitic, it is a good tool to use but it is getting old. Do you teach in synagogues how to hate Christians ? How do you view your christian friends ? Do you trust Christians ? Do you love Jesus ? Please tell me you love Jesus.
Moderate Muslims respect Jesus. Yes there are radicals but there are moderate as well. How does Judaism teach respecting Jesus ? Do we have moderate Jews respecting Jesus ? Why ivy schools takes high percentage of Jews than any other race? They dominated the higher education academia and they know it. That is not antisemitism, don't hide behind such word. If the average individual don't like that fact about dominance, that is their right, don't throw the word antisemitic to protect yourself.
I agree in part with James. First amendment protects every individual. When you advocate for 1st amendment but you call someone antisemitic to protect your own identity against any criticism, well in that case you're a hypocrite and a hater.
Christians were prosecuted during the Roman Empire in millions, many of them died at the hands of Diocletian and Galerius, or have we forgotten about this ? They didn't come up with a term similar to antisemitic during WWII and the holocaust. The more Jews preach about these words such as antisemitic the more the world will criticize you.
It is true, Jews don't like Jesus and many don't like Christians, they work with them but that doesn't mean they like them. Tell any Jew 'Merry Christmas' they will either look at you angry and tell you "I am Jewish" or they will tell you "Happy Holiday." they don't like to tell you Merry Christmas. So what are they preaching at that moment ? Hate, No tolerance for other religious holidays.
Approach Muslims and they will tell you Merry Christmas and Christians do tell them Happy Ramadan. They aren't offended by "Merry Christmas"
You don't discuss these topics publicly because Jews and the media will label you antisemitic which will affect your job, your education and your life/family. I am happy that Trump is the president of the united states and gets to call facts as they are.
Kelly did a very poor job at remaining stone faced ….
I have to disagree.
First, I would rather Trump have rational and decent people around him when he's deciding on nuclear war.
Second, this does nothing to remove or disempower the President. The US isn't a parliamentary democracy where a prime minister can be replaced if enough of his party loses confidence in him. In those countries, cabinet resignations signal that major parts of the governing party are losing confidence. In the US, the president has a fixed term, so a resignation of a decent person creates some temporary bad publicity. I can't see Trump resigning because of bad publicity. (Maybe I'm wrong.)
A further disadvantage of resignation is that the replacement will almost surely be much worse, and the replacement will reduce already remote chance that the Twenty-Fifth Amendment will be invoked.
Any sane and reasonable person working for Trump while to ameliorate his irrational purposes deserves our gratitude.
@William "Tell any Jew 'Merry Christmas' they will either look at you angry and tell you "I am Jewish" or they will tell you "Happy Holiday." they don't like to tell you Merry Christmas."
Any jew? really? Are you sure, because, well, I've never experienced that. Indeed, my recollection from my childhood was of big Jewish department stores who were perfectly happy to say Merry Christmas and I have distinctly heard Jewish colleagues wish a muslim colleague Ramadan Kareem and/or Ramadan Mubarak (you are right about "Happy Ramadan" though, seems they were more familiar with the correct greeting (funny that)), or Eid Mubarak and Blessed Eid as well as use the expression Salam Alaikum. Then there were the Jewish classmates that had no problem saying the quite Christian 'Dia Duit' and responding "Dia is Muire Duit' in Gaelic and in DC Happy Kwanzaa. But I suppose they must have been the "bad Jews" that right wingers keep telling me about.
Steve, you are such a racist for not discussing why Jews don't say Happy Ramadan and Merry Christmas – can you tell me why the Jews I have never encountered who make an issue of this, make an issue of this? I mean, I need to understand these, at least to me, imaginary Jews.
Of course, I have been in offices where all sorts of religious festivals occurred in roughly the same two-three week time-frame at the end of the year – Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus (some vary your to year) and inclusiveness led one to simply wish everyone 'happy holidays' – but now I know that this was really bigotry, that I should have left one religion or another out. So sorry, I'll no better – should I stick to Hail Satan then?
@[M][@][c][K]| If you follow Steve Lubet's posts you will know he could be racist and if you call him out, he will call you antisemitic.
Listen, Jews hate what Trump is saying, they now feel their identity are threatened because he is allowing other Americans to speak up. Call it White nationalist, White southerners, you keep labeling people and you're forgetting yourself that you can be labeled yourself.
David Duke shared a video on twitter, I never knew who he was until the press cited his video to trump. When he cites how Jews run the media and discriminate in higher education, these are facts, that is not antisemitic and America doesn't like it anymore. Many ivy schools have presidents and deans and staff in the admission office who are Jewish. Google founder is Jewish, Facebook founder is Jewish. Is that bad, not really but the public perceives it bad because of how the Jews act. Now we see how the Media is ganging on Trump because for the first time ever, they don't like what they hear.
Steve Lubet is Jewish. What makes him leave his taught courses at Northwestern just to attempt while sugar coating his words to attack Trumps Cabinet by calling them decent on CNN. I guess that is what he teaches at Northwestern Law School.
If a Jew can tell me Merry Christmas or Happy Easter than they've learned tolerance but don't preach it when you don't know it.
Actually, I have called Steve out repeatedly on issues like Israel, BDS, etc. and he's never called me an anti-Semite. Indeed if I recall correctly, he's chided those who did.
Is this the same Steve Lubet? Because he's not a prone to flinging the anti-Semite allegation around – there are indeed some who post here that do, but not Steve Lubet. Maybe we're taking about an imaginary Good-Jew-Steve Lubet, or maybe you are stereotyping.
A Christian little boy and a Jewish little boy, both friends, were talking at school. All of a sudden, the Christian little boy punches the Jewish boy in the head. The Jewish boy screams, "What did you do that for?" The Christian boy responds, "You killed our God and Savior." The Jewish boy responds, "That was two thousand seventeen years ago." The Christian boy says, "Yah, I just learned about it today." I think there are some lessons here for some of you posters…
UFO e to think of it, I do remember a Jewish colleague who was unhappy with a Christmas tradition – it was a December in Amsterdam and a group of Swartz Piet went running by – we both saw this for the first time; of course, since my reaction was also more or less holy sh!t, wtf!, I don't think I can ascribe his to Judaism….
@Deep State Special Legal Counsel
It doesn't matter if it is 2017 years ago + Jesus was risen and the Jewish temple was torn into half. Look, the more the Jewish people will keep using the holocaust as their excuse for everything and the word antisemitic, the more the world will dislike it. Don't label people if you don't want to be labeled.
Don't teach in synagogues how to hate Jesus. Don't teach your kids to use the word antisemitic for every little disagreement they have with a non Jewish individual. You're not building tolerance that way, you're building hatred and anger. When you dominate higher education, you bare more responsibilities toward the world for giving you that chance. Same goes for employments. If you act selfish, if you fake it till you make it, if you back stab people for their kindness, you won't be liked and it will move from generation to generation.
William, has it occurred to you that people call you an anti-Semite because you obviously are.
@[M][a][c][K] | Unfortunately for you I've never been called anti-semit.
Sounds like you hate facts. Lets run toward the term anti-semite to attack an argument against Jews. You're not going to learn, don't ask the world to love Jews when this is how they behave and act. I told you Christians were prosecuted and killed in millions during the roman empire yet they didn't come up with a term that the Jews come up with. You know
If you can answer me:
Do Jews love Jesus ?
Do Jews respect Christians and can wish them Merry Christmas or Happy Easter ?
Do Jews teach in synagogues their kids how to hate Jesus ?
So far you haven't answered because deep down in your heart that is how Jews are. Good Luck. You can't buy love and respect from the world. You can seek it with power and dominance but that is about it. Power and dominance can be taken away any time.
William,
I've decided to stop feeding the troll – go away, haven't you a supremacist rally to attend.
@[M][a][c][K] | That is my term buddy. You've been trolling ever since you started to reply with that Jewish boy story of yours and you still can't answer my questions, you've proven my point.
You've been up since 4 AM i see, you need to sleep or get your coffee and go out.
Power and dominance: After so many years comes J. B. Pritzker to donate 100 million to Northwester law school and the name gets changed to Pritzker school of law. Do you see what power and dominance did to Northwestern? So now someone else can come and donate even a bigger amount and the school name will change again ? Now he is running for a governor.
Steve Lubet, you've been silent for a while but definitely not on CNN with your twisted words against Trump Cabinet. Look how you word the title of your article 'How much longer can decent people serve in Trump's cabinet?' So if they don't leave they aren't decent? You attack like a snake while attempting to cover your hatred.
Oh nice! he is moderating the comments now *thumbs up*
Steve Lubet, you're great and amazing! You have a great sense of humor. I love you!
That is how the words should be worded. You made a new topic just about the commentators.
'Extremely nasty anonymous comments' you say because you can't answer simple questions?
Do Jews love Jesus ?
Do Jews respect Christians and can wish them Merry Christmas or Happy Easter ?
Do Jews teach in synagogues their kids how to hate Jesus ?
You can attack Trump's Cabinet but you can't tolerate simple questions.
What i am reading here is that neither side can tolerate each other. It is an ongoing cycle.
I am very curious to hear Steve Lubet's side on higher education and the claim that it is dominated by Jews. What does he think about that.
Monica R Miles – why should anyone have to tolerate anti-semites, xenophobes and bigots. It's a false equivalence, intellectual dishonest and quite shameful really.
[M][@][c][K]| – we need proper discussions and resolutions to these topics. I am not in favor of twisted words. Are you advocating for no tolerance ? We learn in schools to bring different discussions to the table. You can discuss it with respect. Whether you like the discussion that is your predicament. Denying outright a discussion doesn't prove tolerance.If someone doesn't like a certain discussion, they can either participate or leave but attempt to deny it doesn't prove to be the right solution.
I think to every side there is a story and common understanding of debates like these will teach love and tolerance. Steve Lubet called out James and William as ' extremely nasty anonymous comments' then to dodge an ongoing proper response he said 'I will not respond to anonymous commenters.' So why did he share his CNN article. Was his goal to open a discussion or to attack president Trump. If this is how he handles discussions, then I can see how he would do the same in his class when dealing with students that come up with different views. In fact, Rate My professor doesn't show pleasant reviews about his taught classes.
@Monica R Miles – I'm advocating for a certain intolerance, if that is the way you want, to use your expression 'twist my words.' I see absolutely no sense in trying to argue that Jew, Blacks, Muslims or 'ordinary decent people' need to show tolerance for anti-Semites, Racists and Xenophobes.
When you disingenuously say "neither side can tolerate each other. It is an ongoing cycle" you are being deliberately obtuse. Anti-Semites want to deny Jews, at best, any rights, at worst their very existence; White-Power advocates want to deny Blacks their rights, even perhaps their existence. You place them on the same plane, and expect that Jews, Black, Muslims, Gays and others treat as people who should be tolerated and debated as being morally acceptable.
Steve Lubet was quite right in calling out James an William's extremely nasty comments, which as far as I could see were simply seeking to use the debate to spread disgusting stereotypes about Jews. The only reason to debate them is to denounce them, to allow decent people to recognise that they are scum.
I am actually very troubled by your efforts to try to suggest that there is some sort of equivalence between their views and those of Steve Lubet. There are things I disagree with Steve about, BDS for example (though I am not a supporter of BDS), or aspects of Israeli policy. But the sort of 'Jews Killed Jesus' or Jews hate Christians cr@p that William and James have been peddling is simply a disgraceful and wholly unacceptable.
I have no idea who you are, and very little interest, based on your comment in knowing more.
[M][@][c][K]| – Look at you now. I guess you didn't realize it that now you're calling them names and denying history about Jesus and Christianity. They didn't say 'Jews killed Jesus' look at their comments very carefully. It is you now saying that. They spoke about religious holidays, love for Jesus, and Christians.
When you deny history, why do you want the world to also accept and acknowledge the holocaust ? I have many moderate Jewish friends and they're awesome for who they are. They don't care about these debates and they wouldn't participate in it and they know too well there are radical and extreme racist Jews just like there are with any other religion. Not 'all' Jews are angels are they ? There are Jews who commit crimes, others who promote hate and the list goes on and on.
Even the Department of education found a Jewish institution committing fraud under the Obama's administration. U.S. Ends Michigan Jewish Institute Student Aid. They were taking federal student aid to teach students in Israel at israeli insinuations with these federal funds. That is fraud right there, sending money to non American institution. The media wasn't speaking about it, why is that ? Jews were not happy with Obama, especially Israel, now they are not happy with Trump either.
Jews and Israel were neither happy with Obama or Trump. Visiting jpost during Obama's presidency and they called him the worst names and referring to last name 'barack' as supporter of extreme Islam. Obama is now gone, comes Trump and they are calling Trumps names as well.
I think James and William brought the Christianity and Jesus topic to protect themselves against allegations such as antisemitism. You see, when you couldn't answer them, are you becoming a bigot when you outright call them names or simply angry at the topic because it offends you somehow?
What happen if Steve Lubet knew the identity of James and William, he will go publicly to shame them, which will harm their reputation, possibly career and life because everyone will be jumping on the bandwagon. You don't think Jews can discriminate ?